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I'll admit it.. This one singing from the beginning
Post by Dave Stewart.
Thursday, June 19, 2014
New sound bite from new Stevie Nicks album posted by Dave Stewart
I'll admit it.. This one singing from the beginning
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Sounds like she's saying "24-karat gold, my love".
It's "24 Karat Gold!" Yes! "Yes, you love that 24 karat gold. Chance... My love..."
This sounds SO much better than the "Starshine" tidbit we heard last month. I love that they seem to be trying really hard to hold onto the essence of how the demos send. I'm sure they know that we're used to the demos by this point. I'm glad to know that Stevie is finally aware that we've all been listening to her demos for 30+ years and she's finally paying homage to them by sending them into the world officially.
It's just a few seconds, but I think it sounds far too ''busy'' and jangly. The charm of the song '24 Karat Gold' in demo form was the sparse, clearness of a song that had the makings of being great but had a ways to go. It sounds like DS is taking it too far with the muddled production and too far back vocal watering down the strength rather than enhancing it. Questioning only, too soon to tell, , because who knows- but it sounds a little too much like the approach used on the weaker tracks of 'IYD' though the album is fantastic, mostly.
I wonder what HerjinaUCN would think, his lightening fast and brilliant insight is so missed and he has disappeared. Does anybody know where Herjina went? He always had the inside track and it angered some people, I would not be surprised if he is in the studio with them, he was THE one who would get in everywhere and share- unless he is this site's webmaster. No need to answer, webmaster, I respect 'your' anonymity as you do ours. ( I left out the 'real' name of H purposely though many of us know it.)
Then, other than Herjina, does anyone think '24 Karat' sounds a little too 'My Heart' jangly? I do like 'My Heart'- but '24' needs a sparse feeling, and the more ''dilaudid'' but unfinished approach of the demo. I'd say tidy the demo up, replace a lyric or three, but keep 'the feel' and sound very similar to that of the demo.
It sounds very overproduced. I'm concerned that this album won't ring true to the spirit of demo recordings.
Some people on the ledge say they here 24 Karat Gold playing at the same time as If You Were My Love..... I don't hear it. Is IYWML really in there???
I'm sorry but everything about this project screams "contractual obligation!" This is not an "unplugged" record with minimal instrumentation, and three weeks is simply not enough time to match the quality of SN/FM records. Very low expectations here....
Wow! Stevie sounds great!
These aren't demos that are being released, these are demos that are being fully produced. Expect fully produced songs.
I think a much more interesting and creative concept for 24K would have been to retain all of the original demos and hire contemporary producers to build state-of-the-art arrangements around them. This is a natural for modern recording capabilities and it would be a production project as opposed to a performance project, which there really isn't time for. I understand that this is going faster in part because all of the songs were already done - but they weren't arranged and that where this project is very, very risky. Dave can really come up with all that in 3 weeks? Also, there's going to be that thing where Stevie's past and present voices are compared - which will only give more ammunition to those who insist upon dwelling on the increasingly limitations of Stevie's voice, which actually sounds great for her age.
I wish she'd waited to record new vocals until the FM record. Oh well..
It would be interesting if it was released as a double album with the new versions on one disc and the demos on the other disc....the demos are so fantastic with the sparse production....for example, I love the "Secret Love" demo, but the fully-produced track on IYD is over produced and ultimately, it is a different song.
Remember, the demos were not to be heard outside of Stevie's circle. That fact that they were pirated and sent out to the public doesn't give any of us the right to say she has to produce them the same way. She's an artist, and she should be producing them as SHE sees fit. As a fan you can like them or hate them, but don't dictate how she should produce her art.
Were people honestly expecting them to sound like the demos?
What would even be the point of that - you already have the demos. The point of this project seems to be to fully realize the song and bring them to their full potential imagined by Stevie today.
There is so much negativity here! What's up with that? Enjoy the fact that Stevie is enjoying herself, making music - whether it be for obligations, for fun or just creativity. She's earned it, she is the artist - for those of you who think they can produce a album, or manager her, you should of thought of that career path for yourself a long time ago and worked hard at it like Stevie has worked on her career! Go Stevie, do whatever you wanna do - make whatever music you want - You are the artist - And same goes with Dave S - Glad he is enjoying his work and life at this stage! You both deserve to make whatever you guys want!
I am fascinated, personally, by what I'm hearing in this snippet. Not that you'll read this comment, but thanks Dave Stewart for the little teases along the way.
We all seem to have our own opinions about what we're hearing; I respect everyone else's opinions but I love that Stevie seems to be taking chances with these songs. Had she produced these demos into full-blown songs around the time she wrote them it would still be very unlikely they would sound as they do in demo form. I think what they're doing sounds fantastic.
My only wish would be that in addition to lyrics Stevie include a "note" about each song in the album sleeve.
What's the deal with the comment about the anonymous "Herjina." Was this the guy that broke the You Wreck Me Baby Tom to Stevie legal action? What else did Herjina have to say?
I'm just happy Stevie is still making music. I love the demos, and I'll love this record.
That sounded great whether it was a demo or not it about 15 seconds worth. How can someone judge how they are going to make the album in a short clip like that. Come on people really, This is what discourages them from wanting to give more clips. Stop being so negative on something you don't even know of how it will be. Stevie and Dave thanks you for new music and the hard work you put into it. It will come out great because you are Stevie nicks, I can't wait I can't wait!!!
Do you think that Dave and his people have only been working on these songs for only 3 weeks? These are highly seasoned musicians and she probably used a lot of session musicians in Nashville, who are used to hammering out projects in just a few days. Why spend a year on an album that is exclusively based on demos? I agree with the poster above...this is a full-fledge album, so expect full-fledge production. When IYD came out everyone LOVED it...now that we've had it a few years people are beginning to critique it harder - just like TISL. When TISL came out everyone was worshiping it, now people say that it's lopsided. Seems like Stevie can't win.
I'll just be happy with whatever she gives us. I was really worried when she said in the promo for IYD that she may never make another solo album. Lord knows we waited forever for IYD and then she gave us an entire MOVIE! So you never know the tricks she has up her sleeves. We have Dave Stewart to thank for everything she gave us during IYD because he was behind the majority of it all. If she had worked with eight or nine different producers (like people do today), do you think any of them would have suggested visually recording the entire thing? Probably not. So I'm excited to see what she gives us with "24 Karat!" Let's get excited and stop nay saying! I'm sure we'll get excited closer to the expected Halloween release!
Whoever wants them to sound like demos is a retard. We already have the demos. And really people, how can you discredit a song on 10 seconds of music? Very ridiculous. You're going to get what she gives you and like it.
I think of course Dave has only allowed fans to hear what stevie has said OK to. It was difficult to tell in this clip what exactly the sound was. Knowing Stevie she will change a word or two, to fit her life today. I'm very excited about this record but......I'm way more excited about her contributions (upcoming) to Fleetwood Mac. But all in all this should be a real treat! I'm still far more buzzed than anything about the new Fleetwood Mac project.
Meh.
October seems like a million years away!!!!!
Is anyone else curious about the process?
If you sit and think about it this project likely got off the ground right after Fleetwood Mac came off the road last year. All her public appearances/performances were likely scheduled out months in advance as well, but there's unlikely this album (even one comprised of older demos) just "came together" in a couple of months. Studio time with seasoned session musicians - also something that very likely has to be scheduled out, maybe months in advance.
She's talked about her "song vault" for many years, so think of all the demos she has "locked away" in that, along with all the ones that have leaked out and are now on YouTube ... How does she decide from all that material, okay these are the seventeen or eighteen I'm going to produce? I realize many people have no interest in the process, only the finished product, but I find the process of putting something like this together just as interesting. Maybe we'll get some tracks that have never been leaked out, that no one has a stolen demo of, that would be fun.
Since I'm not on Stevie's publicity team, I honestly expressed my concerns about this project, so of course the Flying Monkeys came screaming out of the trees with teeth bared to accuse me of being "negative." While I'm a huge fan of Stevie's and have followed her career since I was 11 (I"m now 48), I'm not a cultist who automatically says everything she does is great and those who can't hear it simply don't "believe." Sorry, but there just isn't time to produce a quality record. This is a quick knock-off to fulfill Stevie's Reprise contract. It's obvious. An unplugged approach might have worked but this half-assed "it's sort of fully produced but don't blame us if it sucks" approach probably won't work. These songs needed smart/clever arrangements to fly - that's why they remained demos - and if just banging them out in a few weeks and adorning them with overdubs makes everyone happy, then fine. I guess Fleetwood Mac were just wasting their time all these years painstakingly piecing together their music when they could have just slammed RUMOURS or TUSK out in a few weeks.
you haven't even heard the record and you are already complaining, that's why people are complaining about responses such as yours. Your not getting another Stevie album. This is it and you are lucky you're getting it. She is trying to get this album in because of Fleetwood Mac. It's the only chance she has. Deal with it.
She may have had a record deal with the record company. Maybe 2 albums in a 5 year window. iyd 2010 and maybe she had plans for something in 2015 but it all change with the mac in 2015. So maybe something has to get done by then and this is the only time frame she has left. Yes I am sure she wants it to come out great so its a good time to release some demos that her fans want. Lets be grateful that she thinks of hers fans and tries to please us. If you don't want to buy this project then don't knowone is forcing anyone to do so. A true fan will buy it and will find some favorite tracks and may find 1 or 2 that is not. But as to you Stevie---- sweetie ( play it the way you feel it) Dreams will come true again. I know I will be first in line for a copy.
At 66 and if you are waiting for another Rumors type album from stevie then I guess you are living in the past Those Rumors type of album come only once in a lifetime. If you are a true Stevie fan just be thankful that she is still making art today. That she is alive and well and preforming and making art. Thank you Stevie and Dave for what you are doing for stevie fans.
It's gonna be Great....You can make good music faster than wasting a whole year. Things come together when you click with people. Trust me it will be good or it won't come out til it is this is the window of time before the tour
There's only so much time for everyone.Why waste a year or so recording. Great albums can come together when people click or you know how you want it to sound as Stevie does she is one hell of an artist and writer. True fans will buy it I just want a million seller for her and a Hall Of Fame Nod too.
I can't believe all the negative speculation about this album. This sound bite is obviously the ending of the song, as it reaches its crescendo, so or course it would sound a little confusing without hearing the entire song leading up to this ending. I, for one, like that Dave Stewart has many of Stevie's song coming to an actual end like this one. She has a history of having too many songs just fade out. I can't wait for this album, Stevie's old catalog of unused songs represent some of her best melodies and lyrics ever.
A new (old) Stevie record, a Fleetwood Mac tour with Christine and then a new Fleetwood Mac album with all 5 of the band together. What more could we ask for?
Man, remember in 2008 when it seemed Stevie was going to be doing the same tour over and over and over and over and over. Then out of noewhere we got in your dreams. And now another album? HECK YEA!!! I love love love love all the clips I'm hearing.
One of my fav Stevie songs is "Maybe Love" - and the music here has the same jangly melancholy. If I was taking a multiple choice quiz and the choices were
a) Have Stevie do her greatest hits tour for the 239843289th time
Or
b) Get two albums within five years.
I would take B. In a heartbeat. Counting down the seconds until this is in my hand!!! Hope for "Julia" and "Space Needle" !!!!!
Wow, so much negativity over a 15 sec. clip. It almost feels like the ledge. :/ When they were making IYD Dave released a clip of Everybody Loves You, and I though it was going to be a disaster. When the album came out, I loved it, and I still do. I think Stevie and Dave work great together. They get each other, and are having a blast while making great music. As a fan I am super excited over her solo album and the new Mac album. It's great to see her back in studio so soon after taking 10 year breaks between albums in the past.
I can't wait for the release of her new album and going by Dave's clips, I think it's sounding fantastic. What with all the negativity? We're getting everything we could possibly dream of... Stevie's active in the studio and even on TV, Christine is back, Fleetwood Mac are touring and making a new album and Stevie's doing exactly what she did in the 80s - working on solo album/s whilst committed to FM. It's like Fleetwood Mac and Stevie's prime all over again. And I love it.
i hear that some people don't understand how long this project has been on for. they started easter sunday, april 20, and two days ago it was june 20. that marked two months. now its june 22. that is two months and two days today. we have heard stevie say "three weeks is the fastest i've ever recorded" because they recorded in three weeks and the rest was overdubbing and (currently) mixing. thats impressive!
i hope this helps. go stevie and 24 karat gold!!!!!!!
i guess you guys all forgot how stevie did it in the 80s and now ur freaked out about how will work.
everybody's so negative to this project! we are getting all we could ask for!!!!!! ARE U KIDDING TO SAY THIS PROJCT WILL NEVER WORK????
@ Joseph Gould ... couldn't have said it better myself!!!
Regarding all the ignorant comments questioning how she could record an album of quality so quickly. She understands that at her age, time is of the essence. And with Dave running the show, they approached this album differently. They went to Nashville and are working with a "wrecking crew," which refers to an established band of seasoned studio musicians who know how to work quickly. Please reserve your judgement until you hear the end product. Demos are just that - not something intended for official release. You have them already, so there is no reason to complain about a official, professionally recorded versions of those songs. Yes, they a going to be different. Isn't that the point?
What I have to say here has nothing to do with the above comments.....
Out of the blue while I was cooking dinner....my thoughts were going in all directions...and then all of the sudden I blurted out...
Stevie Nicks should have her own star on the...Hollywood Walk Of Fame
Call Me Crazy ???
As is the nature of Stevie she most likely will change a word or a line if it fits her life more today! I would not expect these songs to be word for word as they are on the demos
This whole 'pirated' thing- look, decades ago songs got stolen, yes, and we got ''Almanac' and other bootleg songs got in circulation. A handful of songs.
Then, it kept happening, over and over, all through the 80s, then a ton of stuff in the 90s, and then it continued after the year 2000. So, is ''everyone'' Stevie knows a pirate or a thief not to be trusted, or is it the same 'Almanac' thief circa late 70s? More than 100 songs have leaked during her career, and and not from one stolen tape. don't think she or her fans should find fault with the plethora of continued ''leaking'' of songs. She herself never did a ''thing'' to stop it!~
If she were concerned at all over the songs getting out, she had 35 years to be more careful, or be with trustworthy people, and they probably are friends of hers. So, I think she should either be glad or accept that she allowed for her unreleased music to circulaye and ALLOW for it happen so very, very many times. When she speaks of the subject, she makes herself sound like she was the victim of one thief who stole her songs- for decades? I love SN's music, but the complete truth is she LET it happen, over and over. That's fine. SN is a strong woman, enough with the pirating or stolen music comments.
Stevie Nicks is nobody's victim: That is part of what has made her endure 40 years in this industry. If she minded a fraction of as she sometimes claims, other times she says she doesn't care that much, she is the one accountable for not having lawyers handle it for 35 years. She will have probably the album of her career, I can't wait. She didn't stop it, so own up to that and just be happy people love her music, or protect her own music so it ''doesn't'' get heard if it bothers her so much. She stopped doing coke and downers, she could have taken responsibility for the protection and seclusion of songs if she really had wanted to keep them private. She's so strong that it's maddening to hear her speak like she was powerless about it. Since 1976? All of the songs are out there for one reason: she herself put them into other peoples hands, amd at 66, it's a good thing that she did- she has tons of great songs and could do an album a year until she's 70 from all that got ''pirated'- She's smart, she's great, but 'victim' just does not ring of one bit from her lips- her career is amazing for her age, for any age, because people 'knew' of great songs that will keep her vital, and not just stuck with the stale Fleetwood Mac ''we have to do these songs'' tours.
overproduced, like the bella donna album
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